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haas
New York, NY
Joined: Aug 8, 08
Status Level: 1
2008-08-15 15:39:39
Hey! Why are there no off-topic threads? Just share your ideas, then it's more to do on the site. I think it's a bit boring around here...
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happy
Conway, SC
Joined: Sep 4, 08
Status Level: 1
2008-09-06 09:05:56
I agree where is the happening site
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TheGoIsWin
Windsor, CA
Joined: Nov 11, 08
Status Level: 1
2008-11-11 04:54:29
I don't think there ARE such things as happening sites.... Just the combination of things required to make a "happening" site sort of x's out a date site.
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jenn
Richmond, VA
Joined: Jan 7, 09
Status Level: 1
2009-01-07 22:34:39
i agree it is a bit boring here
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TPA Agent Obisidionn DOW
Saint Petersburg, FL
Joined: Feb 26, 09
Status Level: 1
2009-02-26 15:27:00
I think this site is run by the members, more or less. So we're the ones that make it "boring". If it's free to post, POST AWAY! :P
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arwen
Sugar Land, TX
Joined: Feb 24, 09
Status Level: 1
2009-03-23 11:19:14
very true! ok...lets make this interesting...hmmmm... what kind of government do ya'll think we should have to govern the people of america? obama isnt doing to well...
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vballhunni
Big Pool, MD
Joined: Apr 1, 09
Status Level: 1
2009-04-01 01:19:37
Hey everyone im new to the site.. jus seein whats up?
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happygolucky44
Gainesville, FL
Joined: Mar 27, 09
Status Level: 1
2009-04-01 14:51:00
Hi vballhunni!

Ok, to attempt to get this site moving - it has good potential! Let continue to debate over the "type of government we the people should have to govern America" - to paraphrase arwen.

I personally beleive in the fair tax idea. It would tax everyone who buys anything. The way the system is now - with multi-level taxation on a singular item - Americains pay ~36% taxes. On this system we would pay ~25%. Its a very interesting idea...please check it out!!

Also the marriage between corporate America with our government has got to end. This country was developed to be small and local, and a servent of the people. There was a reason that american policy had to be revised to enter WWII. Since then policing the world has created a international standing army - unconstitutional.

I know people disagree. try not to attack my spelling or call me names. I am sorry I havnt referenced any material to read or to lend support to my argument. But I can if you want to read it. I welcome other opinions and facts. Just lets have some thought reasoning behind them! I am not trying to be offensive
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happygolucky44
Gainesville, FL
Joined: Mar 27, 09
Status Level: 1
2009-04-01 14:56:43
So to sumerize! Local government. A fair tax that supports less government, with more money then we collect now, collected from everyone that makes a purchess in America.

Our country is corrupt. But it is one of the only countries in the world where the tools are in place for us to make the change. Its polocies and laws dont need to be altered. But we the people need to wake up, care, vote, and raise hell when we are wronged. This is our country and I feel that we are expecting someone else to change it, when we have all the power, if we would just bother to use it! geez, even in sumerizing I went essayish! lol...alright,those are my thoughts. What about yours!
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arwen
Sugar Land, TX
Joined: Feb 24, 09
Status Level: 2
2009-04-02 18:25:27
your smart. lol. i hardly understood a word you said, and im in the top thirty five at the hardest public school in texas! thats saying something. i dont know what you meant by not taxing everyting. what dont we tax these days.
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happygolucky44
Gainesville, FL
Joined: Mar 27, 09
Status Level: 1
2009-04-03 08:53:50
Hey arwen, you should check out the site fairtax.org if this subject interests you. It an idea that would save a lot of headache I think. To clarify to others they may think I am a bot or something, I just found out about this tax system recently have gotten excited about it. I am not on here to promote and inundate this site with fairtax stuff! Lol…

The best way to answer your question is this. Right now we do tax everything. In fact when I mentioned the “multi-level taxation system” that we currently have I was referring to the fact we tax everything, usually more then once.

Take an automobile. The company gets taxed on all the material it buys to make the car, the company gets taxed on the wages of their employees, and finally they get taxed on selling the car…not to mention all the intangible taxes – tags, license, etc. All of those taxes are put into the selling price. We pay those taxes, and the taxes on the car doesn’t end there. The whole time we are also taxed on our income.

I would encourage you to check it out. They will be clearer in explaining how it works, how in the long run more taxes will be collected, and how individuals will ultimately pay ~10% less taxes, plus eliminate waiting to get your money back. There would not be an August 15! Taxes would be placed on new items being sold, guaranteed the tax would be high – around 15-25% - but you would be in control of what you buy, and that would be the only tax you pay – unlike now where there is sale, income, state, property, car, and inherence taxes.

The government would ultimately collect more taxes because everyone buys, illegal aliens, the poor, the rich, the middle class, the young, and the old. There would be provisions built in to protect the very poor, and the very old. Besides them, that would be the very simplified, and streamlined tax system….but def read about it yourself! Tell me what you think!

Going back to the original post – “what type of government should America be?”. I think that taxes is a good place to start when you begin to think about restructuring the government. After all that is in large, why America became its own entity. If we can lower our personal taxes, reduce government and their affair with corporate America, then we can truly pursue solutions to our homeless population, education standards, and energy sources. Everyone wants a more humanitarian, and just government…its just where do you start!?

I am becoming a wordy individual! damn!
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san andres
Middleville, MI
Joined: Apr 6, 09
Status Level: 1
2009-04-06 04:46:33
I agree with what you said earlier about the "marriage between corporate America and our government" needing to end. But I think the reason that they're "married" in the first place is because people ultimately don't have much of a say in what they do. It also has to do with corporations being legally recognized as individuals. So maybe the kind of government that we should have is one that tries to change the definition of what a corporation and how it's run.
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singingteacher
Brighton, TN
Joined: Apr 14, 09
Status Level: 1
2009-04-29 09:12:27
Fair tax would be a great idea...if anyone could get our Congress to listen. What do ya'll think about the socialization of the healthcare system? I haven't decided yet personally but would like to read your thoughts.
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happygolucky44
Saint Petersburg, FL
Joined: Mar 27, 09
Status Level: 2
2009-04-29 18:06:42
I would like to preface this post by saying. I personally do not know this topic very well. I truly dislike engaging in a topic in which I do not have ready references to support my stance, or to offer for those interested material to learn and read.

My brother is a historian of sorts, and very knowledgeable on past experiments in socialized governments and their healthcare programs. The most recent example he has told me about regarding the socialization of health care is in Great Britain.

Essentially what has happened is that the masses are treated to very low cost treatments, free ambulance rides, and a generally “available” health care service. The problems arising however include:

Less professional interest in healthcare fields due to staggeringly low wages, and long hours; since everyone gets free to low-cost treatment there is an influx of patients for every ailment – the clinics are overrun, and becoming run down. Also as a result of treating the masses, and thus the majority, treatments for more uncommon ailments and cancers are essentially left untreated due to lack of experience and funding. Sadly the thought here is that if a very small fraction of people require very costly treatment due to a rare, or very rare ailment then let them be “weeded out” from the greater majority of the population. Why spend great amounts of the peoples money, on a few low-success rate patients; remember a socialist style approach to any form of government or program must consider what is good for the majority of the people. Sacrifices are made, and the people have to understand that.

The health care system in America is a double aged sword. Positively speaking The doctors are out for profit – this keeps them around in a competitive field and we the patients can benefit from this “survival of the fittest Doctor!”; There is money to be made by the pharmaceutical companies in treating the rare, and unusual diseases – this keeps the U.S. in the forefront of research, and technologies; Lastly, as Doctors “duke it out” to stay on top, so do research hospitals – like the Massachusetts General Hospital which is world renown for research and development– this can prevent the degradation of treatment, and ensure the newest treatments based on the newest research.

The cons of our system are directly linked to the positives: The better the doctor or treatment facility the costlier it becomes for the patient – and horribly out-of-reach for some; The pharmaceutical companies own patents on parts of the human G-nome, certain cancer cells, and cellular research. Meaning that nothing gets done until they find a way to make profit! Now here is an ethical question I would love to ask the government: How can a company own information about cells, or G-nomes that I, or someone I know, has? That would be like patenting the blood type-A and accruing a profit every time a person of that blood type is in a wreck and needs a pint. Damn lobbyists; Lastly I truly believe research and technologies suffer under socialist healthcare systems, and I would tout Great Britain as an example.

As I see it America is at a cross-roads. Keep the competitive age amongst Doctors, hospitals, and researchers; but find a better way to regulate their policies. And for God sakes divorce the lobbyists! Also, turn some of our tax money away from horrible, good-for-nothing government programs, and towards aiding the poor Americans for which the better treatment is out of reach. Or, America could try to overhaul the system, mimic Great Britain and go for it, I just wonder how much research, technology, and targeted treatments we would lose.

Again, thanks for bearing with me. I truly do wish I could offer better references for reflection and interpretation. These are my opinions, and I welcome critique. But please no name calling, party affiliation assumption – Mine would surprise I am sure. And do what I can not on this topic! Provide some articles or something…I am desperate to improve my knowledge in this area!
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singingteacher
Brighton, TN
Joined: Apr 14, 09
Status Level: 1
2009-04-30 21:47:37
happy, I see your points, I will go further and ask what you think the role of HOSPICE should be in America...it is not like it was meant to be when it started in Canada. In fact, I know of only two HOSPICE groups that actually follow the original system, one in Minnesota and the other in South Carolina. Both are funded privately, either through community support or individuals.
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